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Why
Marital-Cleanliness Transparency Is Needed Among Ministers And
Members Of The Church
I
do not hate the Amish people but I love them enough to get
resources in place to help my people., Jun 30, 2021, Eli Yoder
Eli
Yoder left the Amish community and says he was saved afterward. He
divorced
a cultural marriage wife or wife
of fornication. The difference between fornication and adultery: Fornication is when a woman knows two men without a legitimate, biblical marriage; adultery is when a woman knows another man after a biblical marriage.
A defiled
woman of fornication as such, for instance, Rahab the harlot, who became a woman of faith (Hebrews 11:31), wife of Salmon (Luke 3:32), and progenitor of Boaz (Mt. 1:5), patrilineal Hebrew and great grandfather of King David and ancestor of the lineage of Joseph (Mt. 1:16, Luke 3:23), husband of Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ, seemingly was tolerated in the Old Testament in some
cases as well as divorcees (Dt.
24:1-3) except if the husband decided it was not a clean relationship (Dt. 23), but nevertheless, fornication was a valid reason for divorce according to
Matthew
19:9. However, a formerly married woman could not remarry without a writing of divorce or it would be considered adultery, a death-penalty offense. Although later as to New Testament spiritual progression and fulfillment of the law, the reproof of Jesus Christ was more strict as to the concept of adultery and condemned remarriage (another marriage of a woman after leaving a legitimate husband even if she had a writing of divorcement). Perhaps this increased moral fulfillment pertaining to the correction of infidelity in sexual relationships of a future era is hinted in Malachi 3:1-5.
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“And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for
immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
9λέγω
δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι ὃς
ἂν ἀπολύσῃ τὴν
γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ
μὴ ἐπὶ πορνείᾳ
καὶ γαμήσῃ ἄλλην
μοιχᾶται.
We
know that betrothal
could be annulled
due to female defilement,
but the word fornication
(“immorality”) is not limited to betrothal.
Nevertheless, the first part of the compound predicate, whoever
“divorces” his wife, only
legally and spiritually stops the current relationship of marital
uncleanliness
due to the fornication phrase–“except for
immorality”–the offense (see
Eph. 5:5), the lack of morality, divine amd pure union
structure and holiness (Eph.5:22-33); it is the second part of the
compound predicate that reveals the committing of adultery–and
“marries” another woman. It seems to me, I suppose we
can assume the first part of the compound predicate, "divorces",
in one sense implies that it is proper to put away a defiled woman
of fornication even as Joseph was thinking about putting away
Mary, the mother of Jesus. The divorcer would not even be
prevented from marrying another. However, the remedy and exception
phrase of a case of betrothal could not be the same as a case
wherein a defiled dowry
wife (which required female virginity and chastity) who
committed lesbianism or other form of sexual defilement. Then, it
seems the divorcer would not be tolerated to marry another due to
the expiration of polygamy.
(See
I Cor. 7:27, Mark 10:11) On the other hand, however, if
fornication were expanded to mean such immorality it would not
negate or nullify Jesus' explanation of betrothal marriage
concerning divorce and marriage. The former case would have
involved the woman in an act of defilement before consummation
with the divorcer, whereas the latter would not have.
Nevertheless, Eli Yoder never had a betrothal or chaste wife so
his first marriage was not a biblical marriage to begin with
according to his life history narration. His relationship with a
woman of fornication prevented a biblical marriage with her, so
putting her away was actually righteous so as to stop a
fornication relationship, not putting away an unclean betrothal
wife as may be inferred in Mt. 19:9. So, at this point of
annulling the fornication, he was delivering himself and his
former partner of a sin of immorality. Under such circumstances,
he could not cause her to commit adultery (Mt. 5:32) because she
was not a real wife, not joined by God to him. May she find
enlightenment, contrition, hope and repentance, and peace, amen.
However,
then, he eventually married another woman. Eli never
explained his second marriage circumstances. In order for a man
who calls himself a Christian to preach and expose the sexual sins
of others, it is necessary to look into his second marriage to see
whether it has been made under biblical principles (considering
his first marriage may have been mere fornication
and not a biblical marriage,
which would have required a virgin
or chaste widow for the spouse). So, I questioned Eli, and here
is the gist of the questions:
In
order for me to be able to verify a person as a faithful brother
through marriage of a second wife, I would have to know some
things about him: his first wife, second wife and himself. First
of all, was his first wife a virgin? If she wasn't a virgin and
she wasn't a chaste widow, then I can't say his marriage to her
was a legitimate, biblical marriage rather than a mere cultural
marriage. Second, was his second wife a virgin? If she was, then
that would comply
with Ex. 22 and Dt. 22. However, if she wasn't, what would make
her any different than the case with the first wife, a woman of
fornication? Third, has he any obligations
to any former virgins. If the answer is yes, and the former
defiled virgin is still living, it would cause the former defiled
virgin problems
to restore her relationship with him. Once a marriage
bond through physical
deposit has already been created, if it is not completed,
it leaves the former virgin unable to marry another man. (See the
KayyPeaa
page.) All these questions pertain to determining whether a second
marriage is biblically legitimate in a worldly and cultural
environment. A Christian has to determine these things.
Eli
did not answer my questions. He was not transparent about his
second marriage. Therefore, I have reason
to challenge him and demand
proof that he is not breaking any laws of the bible. However, as
long as he remains silent, he is like the Amish bishops and
deacons whom Eli scorns because they cover-up their sins. There
isn't any difference in his silence and theirs.
Albeit,
I believe he has had an experience with Jesus. He has been
studying the bible and also exposing sins of the Amish
community, especially sexual immorality and abuse.
Around June 30, 2021, Eli Yoder made a video (above). I had made
some comments to Eli. One of them was, “At about 6 minutes
and 50 seconds you say you weren't sexually abused, but actually
you were sexually abused when you married your first wife in
fornication.
Your divorce seems to have been legitimate. However, you haven't
been transparent about your second marriage, so we are left in
doubt about it. All morality is important, including approved
marriages. On the other hand, you have done a good job on exposing
many things that need to be ecclesiastically and legally
addressed.” In order for his second wife to be biblically
marriable, she would have to have been a virgin or chaste widow,
not another wife of fornication.
“But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let
it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;”
(Ephesians 5:3 KJV) Also, Eli would have to have been
obligation-free
concerning any other virgins.
Then, one of the watchers and antagonists against me who commented
on the video posts, Emmi B, replied,
How was he sexually abused when he was married? And, he doesn't
keep it a secret regarding his second marriage...but through all
of this , it is my understanding -- he was not a born again
Christian -- Remember 'all have sinned and fall short of the Glory
of God"....none of us are perfect and we can't change the
past .... but we can change the future :-)
Well, to answer her question, he admitted that his wife was not
chaste and that in itself proves he should never have had sex with
her. It was fornication according to him and fornication is a form
of sexual immorality and abuse to one's body. The body is to be
holy. It is a temple. So, I replied to her:
In order for me to be able to verify a person as a faithful
brother through marriage of a second wife, I would have to know
some things about him: his first wife, second wife and himself.
First of all, was his first wife a virgin? If she wasn't a virgin
and she wasn't a chaste widow, then I can't say his marriage to
her was a legitimate, biblical marriage rather than a mere
cultural marriage. Second, was his second wife a virgin? If she
was, then that would comply with Ex. 22 and Dt. 22. However, if
she wasn't, what would make her any different than the case with
the first wife? Third, has he any obligations to any former
virgins. If the answer is yes, and the former defiled virgin is
still living, it would be considered polygamous by nature to
remarry (marry again... considering a marriage bond has already
been created), and would cause the former defiled virgin problems
to restore her relationship with him. All these questions pertain
to determining whether a second marriage is biblically legitimate
in a worldly and cultural environment. A Christian has to
determine these things.
Then, seeming to be disturbed by what I said, Emmi B replied,
all those questions are none of your business as a total stranger
to him!
I responded back formerly mispelling the name Meyer,
Purity is God's business and also a Christian's. Many wayward
bishops and deacons would try to cover up immorality but it is my
job and others to be transparent about pure marriage. If a person
has a marriage that is not pure, he should not cover it up; he
should resolve the problem even if it means divorce. Joel might
disagree with me, Joyce Meyer would disagree but that merely shows
me they don't really follow God and purity. In order for me to be
able to verify a person as a faithful brother through marriage of
a second wife, I would have to know some things about him: his
first wife, second wife and himself. First of all, was his first
wife a virgin? If she wasn't a virgin and she wasn't a chaste
widow, then I can't say his marriage to her was a legitimate,
biblical marriage rather than a mere cultural marriage. Second,
was his second wife a virgin? If she was, then that would comply
with Ex. 22 and Dt. 22. However, if she wasn't, what would make
her any different than the case with the first wife? Third, has he
any obligations to any former virgins. If the answer is yes, and
the former defiled virgin is still living, it would be considered
polygamous by nature to remarry (marry again... considering a
marriage bond has already been created), and would cause the
former defiled virgin problems to restore her relationship with
him. All these questions pertain to determining whether a second
marriage is biblically legitimate in a worldly and cultural
environment. A Christian has to determine these things. God gave
us the law to correct murderers, fornicators, adulterers... any
thing against sound doctrine. (I Timothy 1:8)
It
seems she never intended to check and see if Exodus
22 and Deuteronomy
22, which I had mentioned, had anything to do with my
reasoning and questioning of Eli Yoder. It is illusory to think
marriage is instituted by mere
contract! Marriage is a physical sex act between a virgin female
and a male (Ex.
22:16, Dt. 22:13-21, 28, 29)--biblical revelation. The
virginity of a woman is proof
of a woman's eligibility to marry--natural revelation. The male
partner by either sharing or violating the virgin female's
chastity becomes either a husband or a polygamist (although
legally disallowed in many places), the latter sexual status is in
contradiction
to a new testament principle of monogamy (I Cor. 7:27). Nature and
God's written word, natural and biblical revelation, harmonize as
to the enlightenment of the essence of marriage and encourage the
continuance of a chaste relationship. In an anti-Berean manner and
distrust she replied,
do you really think I am going to read your comment -- especially
without you sharing about your past history just as you expect Eli
to share?
I have never been married and divorced. So, when I thought about
what she said, it lit me up with anger at least a little bit. Then
I thought it out and decided to continue to reach her despite her
seemingly arrogant and hard attitude toward me. I said to her,
I live a clean life; have no wife or girlfriends. That's
transparent... does not break any biblical laws. Can you say the
same? As I said earlier, "A little leaven leavens the
whole... all Christians must get rid of evil in their
congregations. Background checks must be made to approve whether a
marriage is biblical or not.”
A couple hours later she responded,
the only one who has walked this earth and has never broken any
biblical law is Jesus .... everyone else is a sinner -- and has
broken each of the Ten Commandments .... All have sinned and fall
short of the Glory of God...
Evidently,
Emmi B is ignoring present sin and seemingly okay-ing it by false
justification that all have sinned at one time or another.
However, my argument with Eli and her is concerning the present.
Sin in the present must be repented of as well as sin of the past.
God forgives sin through true contrition, confession and
repentance,
but he will judge (Hebrews 13:4) on-going
sin. That is why church administrations,
officers and the brotherhood have a duty to see that members
are abiding within biblical laws,
not man's hedonistic humanitarianism and irreligious
dogma. Therefore, I replied to her,
Sounds like you are making an excuse. If you have a sin of
immorality, you should repent of it and live without it.
She
didn't tell me her personal circumstances but she never in the
least replied directly back either. I hope Eli will see the need
to be transparent and others also. Deceived Christians need to get
out of the false
church deception. Fornication
can't become marriage
in our modern, New Testament era. The female prerequisite for
marriage
has been (Ex.
22, Dt. 22) and still is virginity.
In order for things to get better about abuse, it must start with
the house of God and it must start with using the Old Testament
law as our teacher and the supplement
of the New Testament concerning discerning
marriage validity or fornication/whoremongering:
“8 But we know that the law is
good, if a man use it lawfully;
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but
for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,
for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of
mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile
themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured
persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound
doctrine; 11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God,
which was committed to my trust.” (I Timothy 1, KJV) May God
bless all who love him in sincerity, amen.
Links:
My Testimony
Fornication
And Child Abuse Must Be Stopped
Extra Wives/Women Are A Disqualification For A Church Official
Eli
Yoder Divorce And Marriage
Background
Check For Males
Background
Check For Females
Virgin
Premarital Sex Marriage Bond (Ex. 22, Dt. 22)
God
Will Judge On-going Sin
Repentance
Remarriage
Illusion Reproof
“Let
the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ...”
(I Timothy 3:12)
Freedom
to 'remain unmarried' mene'tow
a'gamos (I Cor
7:11, 15)
Erring
Prophets Selling False Hope
Piper
and MacArthur Deceptions
Robertson
Deceiving Hinn (Caught!)
Elizabeth
Smart Rape
Tamar,
Daughter Of King David
Adam
And Eve Premarital Virginity
Essence
Of Marriage And Divorce
Find
A Faithful Minister
Don't
Mess A Female's Mind Up!
Licensed
But Deceived Ministers
Un-Doing
A Mismarriage: Annulment
Fornicators
And Adulterers Deny The Issue Of Uncleanness
When
divorce is necessary
Kenneth
Copeland: Fornication or adultery?
Dowry
Brides
Fornication-marriage
is condemned
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